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		<title>Miguel Castro on .NET Rocks</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m still not ready for the blog post on Fluent NHibernate&#8217;s Auto Persistence Model that I&#8217;ve wanted to write for a couple of days, so I thought I&#8217;d share a few of my impressions about Miguel Castro&#8217;s interview on DNR on Thursday. First, no ORM proponent (to my knowledge) has ever said that using an [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still not ready for the blog post on Fluent NHibernate&#8217;s Auto Persistence Model that I&#8217;ve wanted to write for a couple of days, so I thought I&#8217;d share a few of my impressions about Miguel Castro&#8217;s interview on DNR on Thursday.</p>
<p>First, no ORM proponent (to my knowledge) has ever said that using an ORM means that you don&#8217;t have to know anything about databases or SQL.  It&#8217;s still essential, when using an ORM, to understand how relational databases work.  At the end of the day, that&#8217;s how your data is being stored.  And you also need to understand SQL, not even so much to try to decide if your  ORM is producing sub-optimal queries so you can step in and write them manually yourself, but to clue you in that you may be using your ORM incorrectly.  I don&#8217;t know of anyone in the ORM camp, as I said, who has indicated otherwise.</p>
<p>Second, I may just not run in the right circles, but the whole OO-vs-SOA argument seemed kind of ridiculous.  Is anyone actually fighting about those things in an either-or way?  Maybe it was just a CSLA thing (which would explain why I&#8217;d never heard anything about it), because I don&#8217;t know of anyone who&#8217;s suggesting that service-oriented-architecture is even the same category of thing as object orientation.  I mean, unless you&#8217;re writing your services in F# or Erlang or something, chances are you&#8217;re going to be consuming them from a OO environment.  Sounds like a made-up fight to me.</p>
<p>And last, does anyone really need to drag out the C#-vs-VB thing again?  Is anyone really still arguing about which one is better?  Aside from a few notable exceptions (XML literals come to mind), there&#8217;s not a dime&#8217;s worth of difference between the two languages.  Again, sounds like more of a manufactured fight than anything.</p>
<p>There were several more things that he brought up that were in more or less the same vein.   He&#8217;s a smart guy, I think, but he probably could have made a better contribution to the .NET community by discussing a subject he was knowledgeable in and sharing some of that knowledge with us.  In the end, it just sounded like he was trying to find &#8220;controversial&#8221; subjects to &#8220;make some people mad&#8221; over, and it ended up falling kind of flat.</p>
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